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October 08, 2007


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Is this sentence correct: the development of online resources has contributed to the continual decline of information? Could be a typo....

Stephen, I really enjoyed this insightful overview!

Of all the afore mentioned intersections of Christianity and online technology, I find myself the most skeptical of metaverses. Unlike our online presences which seem like a genuine extension of our real selves, the avatar persona seems too much like a fantasy personality. I must be getting older. Just my .02

stephen shields

Thanks for catching that egregious typo, Cynthia!! I've corrected the text.

I agree that today their value is questionable. I think that metaverses will, however, become more compelling as technology advances. I suspect future months and years will make them more sticky.

Clif Guy

Thanks for making me aware of The Present Future. Also on the topic of "churchless" Christians is George Barna's 2005 book, Revolution (http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-George-Barna/dp/1414307586). If you haven't already read it, put it on your reading list too.

stephen shields

Thanks for the recommendation, Clif! I have begun that book but haven't finished it yet/

Steve K.


You know I love ya, but ... ;-) I feel like I have to confess ... that I am a post-congregational Christian. And I think your overview makes a mistake in mixing post-church (or, I prefer the term post-congregational) Christians with those who are de-churched non-Christians (those who have grown up in Christianity but have rejected it later in life for whatever reason).

Although your overview here (which I just found ironically by doing a Google search on "post-congregational") makes it sound as if all post-congregational Christians are "lost souls," I am finding that the opposite is in fact true. Those I know who are choosing the route of post-congregationalism (if that's even a word) are doing so out of a missional motivation to intentionally be the Church outside of traditional church structures in order to be salt and light amongst a largely de-churched world. Lots more to talk about there, which I'd love to do with you sometime. When are you coming to Charlotte again? ;-)

stephen shields

Hi Steve,

Thanks for reaching out and I'm looking forward to dialogging w/ u on this.

I'm not sure what you mean by "lost souls." Can you tease that out for me a bit? If you are talking about eternity, I don't mean that. If you mean "adrift," I do mean that. And if by "post-congregational" you mean you've found spiritual community in a house church, then I would be (mostly) unconcerned. If you mean in a state where you don't have regularized Christian community where you are being served by elder(s), being served by others with spiritual gifts, etc, then I would be very concerned. And - let me be clear - I do not think that church only happens in traditional structures. After all, I am an emerging church reconstructionist!

Please, let's keep up the dialogue.

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